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. that is one of two binding constraints on our economy. >> eliot: before jeff i give him his moment, the reason i disagree is there are trillions of dollars of capital signature on the sidelines not being allocated and not being allocated for a host of reasons primarily a demand crisis and the government given the deficit, spends it. in consumption and its own investment, that seems to me to be the trigger we need to get the economy going. jeff, tell me why you disagree with me or ed. >> i do agree with you eliot. the proof of the pudding is the fact that we did cut tax rates on the rich in the early 2000s under president bush. they're the job creators, the investors, we got a bad economic recovery in expansion. virtually no job creation in that period. the reason is by in large what you're talking about. cutting tax on the rich is not the way to get growth. especially when taxes are already low. the way to get growth now is that we need more demand stimulus and the real danger is all this talk about cutting govern
to bring these jobs back. >> what do you think about jeff immelt's article where he says i'm bringing jobs back to america makes more economic sense. >> he was bringing jobs back to america. i wasn't prepared for this quiz this morning. i can tell you from memory, he brought a bunch of jobs back in lexington, kentucky. >> he is stoned. >> get lexington, kentucky out. >> do you feel like we do? we're going to kick out with frampton after he's done with this answer. >> he brought back a bunch of jobs at lexington, kentucky but at much lower wages. >> what kind? >> it was appliance jobs. >> they have the huge apply hans city down there and all these massive buildings and their own zip code and one building after another closed down. he's starting up one assembly line after another. are they going to get paid $30 an hour? no. >> here's the point. how do you have a ro best recovery when you have wage compression, people who made $30 an hour making $14 an hour. how do you grow an economy like that. >> the point is do we want these jobs building in germany or alabama. want them in lexington, kent
, will take on the same sex marriage issue. this was just announced. straight to jeff toobin with us here. we have been waiting for this development. this is a big deal. >> this is a major event in american history. not just in supreme court history. the supreme court is not just going to decide whether the defense of marriage act is constitutional, they are also going to decide whether proposition 8 in california, that case, whether the ban on same sex marriage there is unconstitutional. and that could affect all 50 states. so there is at least the potential that by the end of june, all 50 states will be ordered to have same sex marriage. there is a long way between here and there, but that is now a possibility. >> what is so interesting about this, this is not just about the marriage issue, so much as it is an equal protection issue because so many people have been denied benefits under federal law. >> that's the defense of marriage act case. what the defense of marriage act case, what the law says, passed in 1996, signed into law by president clinton, that law says that the federal governm
on the accuracy of bills sent to medicare and medicaid. she'd never met former h.m.a. doctors jeff hamby, cliff cloonan, and scott rankin until we brought them together in new york to discuss their experiences at h.m.a. >> scott rankin: what's really remarkable is, we're from very different areas of the country, yet the pressures placed upon the emergency physicians and the mechanism in place to enforce those procedures and policies-- exactly the same. >> kroft: cliff cloonan is a retired colonel who spent 21 years as an army doctor before joining the carlisle regional medical center in pennsylvania as the assistant emergency room director. dr. scott rankin worked in the same department. both say they were told by h.m.a. and its e.r. staffing contractor, emcare, that if they didn't start admitting more patients to the hospital, they would lose their jobs. >> cliff cloonan: my department chief said, "we will admit 20% of our patients or somebody's going to get fired." >> kroft: what's wrong with admitting 20%? >> rankin: in a relatively rural, limited-resource community hospital, your admission
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are dropping to near record lows. jeff flock is down by the river with more on this. jeff? >> how low can it go, melissa? this is a river gauge. take a look where it is right now. i was at a flood in this town in phebse, illinois and that was used. look where the river is now? nowhere near the gauge. marty, run with me. look at this boat. if you can't tell how low this water is, that boat you see out there, that is army corps of engineers right now. they're doing sounding because there are river boulders or what they call river pinnacles. >> rock pinnacles, that's correct. >> they're sticking up and making this un 1/2 dpabl. -- unnavigable. >> when the water goes up the pinnacles are past the bridge. >> this is huge estuary for shipping from diesel to fertilizer, to grain moves up and down this. this is what we're talking about right there, marty? marty is with aep river operations. they run barges up and down here. those are what they called rock pinnacles? >> that's correct. those will extend clear out into the channel past the bridge pier. that is what the corps is trying to get removed. >>
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>> that's jeff singing "hallelujah." alan light, the book explores the unlikely journey from obscurity to modern day hymn. it's great to have you on the sh show. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all, tell us how that happened. >> it happened over a long period of time. leonard cohen first reported "hallelujah" in 1984. his label turned down the album it was on. it came out to no notice at all. and over the course of 10, 15, 20 years, more people discovered this song. jeff buckley recorded it in 1994. after jeff buckley's death it got more notice and then people started to pick up on the magic of this song, put it in soundtracks, on tv shows. more and more people recorded it. >> it's everywhere. >> wainwright is nothing short of extraordinary. >> it was on the soundtrack to "shrek" one of the key moments in getting this out there. there are now 350-some recordings of this song and thousands more performances by bob dylan and u2 and, you know, everybody all around the world knows this song. >> but it almost didn't happen. it languished in obscurity. >> first when leonard was writing
well. stephanie, tell me -- i'm bad. i'm bad. jeff jacoby, columnist. i apologize for getting your last name wrong, jacoby. jeff jacoby. i keep doing it. >> well, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? up next, the year in race. really. something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> welcome back. it's our year in review show. we have hit on politics, we talked lgbt for 2012 and covered the ladies issues out. this mmhp and us sitting here in nerdland, yep, we are going to talk race. what better time to do a 2012 race discussion, what better way to start it than in this moment. roll the split screen. yep, there it is. the naacp convention from july. there was mitt romney and there was joe biden. let's listen first to governor romney's address, shall we? >> if our goal is jobs, we have to stop spending over $1 trillion more than we take in every year. and so -- and so to do that, i'm going to elimina
of the hour, we'll talk about the impact of fiscal cliff on the businesses and the market. jeff solomon is the ceo of cowan and company. but before we get to all that, joe has your morning headlines. >>> president obama's going to speak to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnearney says members want a balanced solution in debt issues, including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. well, you're not going to get that. anyway -- sorry, jim. we're going to be watching facebook stock today. the company will join the nasdaq -- got to watch it. i'm trying to rise. trying. the nasdaq 100 -- >> sinking, sinking -- >> like a snake. replaces tech firm emphasis, which is moving the listing to the big board. and let's get a check on the markets which are indicated higher today up about 50 points. overseas, let's check out asia and europe. there's a -- .4%. >> had a big move. >> yeah. big move on the hang seng and green arrows everywhere. let's check out europe quickly. also fractional gains there, up about a third of a point eac
is a nonprofit organization started by earl warren here with us today, and jeff miller. it flies world war ii veterans after to see this beautiful memorial at no cost to the veterans. they fly from 117 cities from across the country and have flown over 100,000 veterans to date. for the past two years my business partners and our team have followed the veterans and volunteers from the stars and stripes on the organization in milwaukee. it's my honor to direct your attention to the to world war ii veterans that are here with us today. they are amazing guys who have also become my very, very good friends. i first like to acknowledge julian, and his daughter, julie. can you give a wave? where is julian? julian served in the navy as a cook, and also on the unit for he buried both japanese and american soldiers. he is a published poet. next i want to tell you about joe. who is a company today by his wife. say hi, joe. [applause] many of the now joe, but you might not know why. this picture was taken of him in 1945 in "life" magazine. it was called the human skeleton, weighing only 70 pounds, after
and jeff bezos. and it's going to double every couple of years and continue and roll through the economy, so you're going to have a digital revolution with artificial intelligence, voice recognition, things that transform the way we live our lives no matter, even if the economy keeps growing at 1% or 2%, one big question, is that growth and innovation going to happen here in the united states or more of it overseas in places like china? >> yeah, well, take this robotic device i just-- this is a medical device and under the obamacare law, medical devices will be subject to a tax because they have to pay for obamacare. >> paul: yes. >> this is the sort of thing, if we keep doing will suppress the growth of technology in this country and then again, there's the issue of immigration policies. a lot of this technology driven by engineers who come from asia, silicon valley and has been the result of immigration into the united states. if we don't stand in the front of these things, we can grow. >> paul: dan, thank you. coming up in our second half hour, a look ahead to 2013. is the economy poi
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them. and that is why i want to bringing in jeff gardere to talk about how one explains this tragedy to children. he's a clinical psychologist. before we talk about this explaining this to a child, we've been talking a lot about gun laws in this country and about somehow making sure that the -- they don't get in the hands of the wrong people. i think it's just as important to talk about mental health, a subject that's been coming up over and over and over again. so where do we start here then? because i guess is nebulous a right, right word or complex is probably the right word when it comes to dealing with mental health issues. >> yes, it is very complex. and this brings up a very excellent point and i'm so glad, don, that you're asking this question. you had a previous guest who said look, when it comes to background checks, we have to look at minnesota mull facic personality inventory which gives us a broad spectrum as to who the person is, some of the psychological projective tests and so on. he is right on with that because right now one of the only questions asked when you're g
. jeff bridges. >> i know. >> have you seen it? >> i want to see that and avatar. >> they have come a long way. let me play a game with you. great lawyer? >> ted. >> david. >> too easy. >> the adversaries are now friends, really good friends, and when we asked to meet with them, they suggested a personal spot. david boyce's apartment in new york city. >> if anybody had said to me nine years ago that i would be about to be interviewing the two men who fought each other tooth and nail in bush versus gore on the same side of a constitutional fight, i would have said, are you crazy? >> actually, david and i talked about this in 2000. as we were getting ready to argue in the supreme court, that some day we'd like to be on the same side in the united states supreme court. and we said some day, some day someone is going to come to us who will want to get married, and they'll be gay. >> it would take nearly a decade for that to actually happen. >> what do we want? >> olson was recruited by a group of hollywood activists who wanted to challenge proposition 8. the controversial 2008 ballot in
a little bloody. >> lots to choose from. great wrap-up, jeff. thank you so much. happy new year. >>> simple ways to impress your guests as you ring in the new year later tonight. first this is "today" on nbc. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> on "today" celebrates 2013, you only have a few hours left before your guests arrive. no pressure. good news is that there's still time to host a great night. no pressure. >> no pressure. these are really easy things. no one wants to spend a lot of money. no one wants to spend a lot of time. hopefully these will take you an hour or two to get ready. >> that'
's get to the futures pits. jeff killberg of killer capital. you know, you spelled capital wrong in your name. i guess that was inadvertent. how should traders position themselves? i hear some of the people that are a little mover reactionary, they say capital gains rates could go up so much between now and the end of the year, many stocks could make advances because people will be selling. >> joe, although i'm very distraught at mantea's loss to the height man, i see seller's remorse. a lot of people are worried about that and rightfully so. but additional measures as well as we see some type of resolution out of washington, you could see a nice pick up here in the s&p and that could catch some shorts on the run. >> i wonder about that. with boehner was at any time we could hear that maybe a deal is close or a deal gets made. but, i mean, capital gains no matter what are going up, aren't they? >> that's inevitable, right. and you're seeing one things in the bits here behind me, which will be very loud here this afternoon, the treasury pit is an overcrowded trader now. that was opposite
by mpd. we want to talk about this thousand with cnn senior legal . jeff, let's just start with the law. we have it, we can put it right up there on the screen here in the district of columbia, the law on ammunition feeding devices. no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large k35s ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. for the purposes of this subsection, the term large capacity ammunition feeding device means magazine, belt, drum, feed strip or similar device that has a capacity of or can readily be restored or converted to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition. so assuming what he held up was the real thing, did nbc break the law? >> it's obvious. david gregory is going to the big house. it's just done. no, this is so silly. come on, i know it's the day after christmas, but, i mean, look, this is a silly little diversion. he was obviously using it for a demonstration. there is no chance that this would result in a prosecution. it's a good opportunity for the washington, d.c. police to point out that it's illegal t
, jeff bingaman, of new mexico, someone who's always brought intellectual rigor, a lawyer's insistence on thoroughness and a real commitment to people. it's been an honor and a pleasure to work with him on the help committee, especially on the affordable care act. i was proud to support him all that he did, particularly in developing and focusing on the health work force for the future. i knew i could count on jeff in the committee and on the floor as one of those men that i refer to as the ga gallahads, where mn of quality always support we women as we sought equality. our initiatives to end discrimination against women in the health care and in the workplace were some of our proudest achievements in working together. i also would like to comment about jon kyl. i've worked across the aisle from jon kyl and i've been seated across the table from him at everything from bible study group to the senate intelligence committee. we studied the words of the bible together to make ourselves better and we worked in our committees to make the world better. we lived through september 11th and the
that are leading this are tom udall from new mexico and jeff merkley from oregon. and you know, the hurdles someone once said that during the 1950s writer was talking about the southern democrats blocking civil rights and they said that the senate was ending revenge for gettysburg and the rules of the senate have lent themselves -- back then, it blocked civil rights but it wasn't a work a day kind of obstructionist. as horrible as it was blocking civil rights legislation. today is it is almost everything. you need 60 votes. it doesn't even -- the majority leader can't even bring a bill up to debate without a 60 votes if the minority wants to force 60 votes. that's got to change. the selection -- the confirmation of federal judges and less than cabinet level appointees, those kinds of things are just obstructionism, period. when in the past, we always were able to just bring it forward to get 51 votes. if you don't, you don't. some of these votes will be more aimed to that. certainly to give the minority rights to slow th
up going, what's going to make phil look good? >> right. >> what's going to make before jeff now steve burke feel good, like they got the best of me. >> right. >> and i'm going to give them that, but i'm going to take what i've always wanted all along. and it's money. give them what they want. but it's -- it's a deal. you figure out what they can give up, they figure out what you can give up and you do the deal and everybody walks away. every deal i've ever done, everybody walks away feeling like they won. >> and you know who made a life out of that? was the labor negotiator ronald reagan. >> yeah. >> brian cashman's on the phone for you, joe. he's listened to that. he wants to talk to you about how to get rid of alex rodriguez. >> actually, he wants you to play third base. >> well, you know, i've got two good hips. >> there you go. >> two more than a-rod. second hip replacement. >> that's terrible. former british prime minister tony blair joins us onset, also ron fournier will be here to discuss about his cover in the national journal. >>> and coming up, arianna huffington onset
's louisiana gop run-off. congressman jeff landry, a tea party favorite, lost to fellow republican congressman who is aligned with house speaker john boehner. he captured 61% of the vote last night. could this loss and some other recent departures signal a shift in the tea party's power? joining me now from atlanta to talk about that and more, amy cramer, chair of the tea party express. hey, amy. >> hey, craig. thanks for having me on. >> thanks for coming. with landry's loss, senator jim demint retiring, dick armey leafing freedom works, is it time for the tea party to hit the reset button? >> well, you know, i don't know that it's hit the reset button. we're going to keep working, and we're not giving up. you know, i am happy that senator demint is going to the heritage foundation. i think he's going to have a great impact. we certainly have not seen the last of him. the great thing about this movement is we have no. leaders. it's every day average americans that are concerned about -- >> that's not true. you have leaders. you have spokespeople. you have people who are at the forefront of th
desperately wants to see it. they hate the finagling of it. >> bill: we saw jeff saying let's get it done so we can move on. >> 50/50, that gets wrapped in. >> the money man. one tough nerd -- no, that's rick schneider. >> please don't wrap knee me in that. >> bill: his twitter handle is at morning money ben. we'll be right back here. your calls welcome at 1-866-55-press. are we ready to go over the cliff? do you think we will? do you think we should? 1-866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. let's rock and roll. there is so much going on that every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the
distributors like comcast pay $30 billion in affiliate fees, that's your cable bill. >> jeff said he wasn't worried about cord cutters, worried about never cords, i don't know the phrase, the idea there's a whole generation that never had the cord to begin with. >> yeah. those are college kids, maybe economic reasons can't find a job, can't afford cable. i couldn't afford cable in college. some economic reasons for that. >> you think it's economic, you don't think it's cultural, the way an entire generation will grow up? >> i don't. cable, still 5 1/2 hours a day of tv. on the margin, you may have some folks that try to string it together to try not to subscribe to cable and there's not enough out there and sports is the hammer that keeps you going. >> thanks. >>> the holiday season traditionally busy one at the box office. this year's winner s and losers next. . you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could ge
with jeff henserling of texas. right now, let's bring in our coworkers, joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. thank you. good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> it wag something to see when we -- well, i'm not going to go into it. but we hugged it out. >> a big bro man. >> the only thing is, you weren't here, which made it bittersweet. >> we'll have her back tomorrow. >> we will. >> we'll see you tomorrow. we hope you had a good trip down on the amtrak. >> i did. >> hopefully you had the bison chili. >> no. there was no bison chili this time. it was steak or a shrimp pasta or -- >> really? >> yeah. >> i've had the shrimp pasta. >> i had the salad. >> i won't eat bison anywhere but on the amtrak. >> sound policy. >> we'll have more from becky and jim cramer will join her in d.c. for now, let's get up on the morning's top stories. the fed is hold ago two-day meeting in washington and a news conference by bernanke is set for tomorrow afternoon. operation twist expires at the end of this month. the central bank is expected to maintain its purchase of bonds with longer maturities. and we'll
? >> my exit interviews on, retiring senator jeff binghamton on, all these guys have interesting takes on what's wrong with today's senate. why ain't it like the good old days? >> they say always more when they're leaving. >> yes, they do. that's why i love these. finally you get the truth. >> thank you, chuck. david gregory and eugene robinson and here on set, bloomberg's margaret carlson. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ >>> i've done sunday shows many
and a cnbc exclusive interview with richmond fed president jeff lacquer at 10:30 even on "squawk on the street." right now, take another quick look at the futures. you're going to see the dow futures up by about 54 points above fair value. s&p futures just over 7. >>> welcome back to "squawk box." let's get back to our special guest david tepper. founder, president and cio of $16 billion hedge und appaloosa management. when we last left you before the commercial we were all trying to get a read on where you were going with this in terms of the equity market. i think you were suggesting that it's weakly priced. you can tell me. >> you think? >> that's what i thought. >> you are a keen analyst. >> you were waffling. >> i was waffling? >> you were giving signals. >> i was giving signals? >> the bond market was too high. >> listen at 12 times next years with these interest rates, with these fed, yeah, of course it's cheap. but you still do have the stuff that's going on in washington that's holding back everybody and everything. the question is how much does it mean, what will it do,
, there is so much money sitting on the side lines, not junk among big american companies. you had ge's jeff immelt come out yesterday indicating yet again so much as investment is being put on the side while people are waiting for clarity and investors that have been running away from the stock market for the last few weeks could come back again if they think there's some kind of deal. if you look at the figures yesterday, you had about $240 billion going into bond funds so far this year. you've had 127 coming out of equity funds and that's partly because of the concern about where we're going with the economy, but also fiscal cliff. so there is real potential for pent up demand going into the market if people begin to trust that actually a framework has been put in place and a bit of political sanity has suddenly broken out. >> that could be a big christmas present. >> we were all obsessed with this, cliff, cliff, cliff, cliff, cliff, and then newtown hits, as well. and it's like, what are we talking about? we're talking about two points of some -- it's like wage -- you know, there's thing
they precipitate -- jeff immeld say it has gotten soft because of the uncertainty surrounding the cliff. >> you want to talk about bubble s? >> you mentioned the tech bubble in your previous comment. i was looking at numbers i find interesting. in 2000, cisco was selling at 100 times earning, had nobody recommending it and had no yield income and dividend dents at 6 1/2%. this morning, cisco less than 10 times earnings yields 3% and 10 year governments are 1.8% down from 6 1/2. 3% substantially over 10 year government bond rates. the government isn't an equity market, in my opinion a 10 year yield equity market. >> do you like cisco? >> we don't own it. we own qualcomm, we own sprint, googl google. >> you don't own apple? >> we did own apple. we did very well in it. we had a position through options but much smaller than it was. there are questions, issues. i'm not keen on their financial management, in terms of sitting on all that cash, earning zero. i think we should be more creative and innovative. a great company and great product. i have an iphone 5 and very pleased with it. i have an ipad
be the ceo. jeff speaker is known as probably the most innovative ceo in the exchange industry right now. i think duncan, you know, i think that the deutsche bourse deal, i think he wants to leave the nyse a better, bigger place with a -- it's his legacy. but i don't think he will be, if the deal comes, he'll be the ceo. >> okay. richard we're going to leave it there. we thank you. and we will await this news, and hope it comes soon. still to come, we've got steve forbes, the editor in chief and chairman of forbes media. he's going to give us his views on the fiscal cliff. he's in "squawk's" green room prepping for his appearance as we speak. and then, looking for a last-minute present? i know i am. how about one of these mcclarens? they start at about $225,000. i don't know if my credit card can handle that. the company's managing director joins us with a very big unveil. "squawk" is back in two minutes. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345
ones this time. jeff writes, ban the phrase greek bailout, just leave the euro and bring back the drachma. and tom writes, at the end of the day, the most overused phrase in the world today is "at the end of the
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